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		<title>Reading Your Antagonist</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many would suppose that the proper title for this article should be: Know Your Enemy. In fact, Bertrand Russell advises us to use reason when dealing with those we hate, whilst &#8220;safely leaving&#8221; emotion and intuition for those we love. Often this is forgotten, as sceptics (or &#8220;skeptics&#8221;, depending whether you speak proper English or Americanese), nonbelievers and scientists are protracted against a wall of emotion, their ideas and personalities the target of incessant emotive attacks. But scientists and skeptics themselves are guilty of being angry, hostile and patronizing to those who disagree with them.
This tells us something, namely: It&#8217;s very horribly human.
But, consider the maxim of leaving reason for antagonists and intuition for loved ones &#8211; and surely a balance could be struck. An ideal no less for being asserted. I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many would suppose that the proper title for this article should be: Know Your Enemy. In fact, Bertrand Russell advises us to use reason when dealing with those we hate, whilst &#8220;safely leaving&#8221; emotion and intuition for those we love. Often this is forgotten, as sceptics (or &#8220;s<strong>k</strong>eptics&#8221;, depending whether you speak <em>proper</em> English or Americanese), nonbelievers and scientists are protracted against a wall of emotion, their ideas and personalities the target of incessant emotive attacks. But scientists and skeptics themselves are guilty of being angry, hostile and patronizing to those who disagree with them.</p>
<p>This tells us something, namely: It&#8217;s very horribly human.</p>
<p>But, consider the maxim of leaving reason for antagonists and intuition for loved ones &#8211; and surely a balance could be struck. An ideal no less for being asserted. I do not think it&#8217;s perfect &#8211; however this idea is not meant to be. I view it as a foundation from which thought may spring, reason may flow and truth may prosper.</p>
<p>You would never rest a building on a single brick, but <em>many bricks like it</em>! Similarly, if we find other ideas, catering for reason <em>and</em> emotion we have an advantage of advancing our investigations into the supernatural, the non-science and the plain stupid (you can decide which category to slot creationism, Tarot cards and astrology).</p>
<p>The central way I believe we can promote reason in this Discourse of Difference is through the interaction of intelligent antagonists. For example, I am a big fan of the work of Alister McGrath &#8211; except for his <em>The  Dawkins Delusion? </em>Reza Aslan&#8217;s book, <em>No God but God</em>, provides a beautiful history of Islam for the average person. Reading these books, gives one a sense of the numinous and transcendent, longed for by nearly all of us. We are beings capable of the greatest usage of reason, of galvanizing truth into a spurious waft of beauty. We should never limit our approach to using only confirmatory writings, but be willing to test our reasoning against those who are equally charged in their own defenses.</p>
<p>This is why I enjoy public debates and gladly participate in them. I do not like saying &#8220;know your enemy&#8221; as being central to this piece because they are <em>not</em> our enemy. I hate the label of &#8220;enemy&#8221;.  It retracts from the position of making them into friends, allies or, at the very worst, acquaintances. Be not afraid to read why Francis Collins is able to bifurcate the need for evidence in one area, yet gladly give over to a frozen waterfall for the belief in the monotheist god. Sure, you might laugh at this &#8211; but <em>I believe</em> Collins believes (with bad reasoning, but nonetheless I can tell you why only after reading his book <em>The Language of God: A Scienist Presents Evidence for Belief</em>. He does not.) Perhaps my interest in people&#8217;s minds disposes me to be interested in difference and needing to quantify world-views into singular paradigms. Regardless of this, I <strong>do</strong> think that it important for us to read antagonists&#8217; books, no matter how silly they may initially appear.</p>
<p>Be secure: There is no such thing as too much knowledge, too much information and, when reading a book, NO information. You might pick up a copy of John Lennox&#8217;s <em>God&#8217;s Undertaker</em> and be able to refute all his arguments &#8211; but it doesn&#8217;t stop you from enjoying his writing style, his explanations of mathematical concepts and his knowledge of David Hume. As a book reviewer for <em>Skeptic</em> magazine, I have to read books that I do not necessarily want to but have often had my mind changed.</p>
<p>And yes there is quite a lot of nonsense, set as an affront to sensibilities; Sylvia Browne comes to mind. This should not stop you from investigating her, finding out why she&#8217;s a fraud, a hypocrite, a morbid pestilential old bat<sup>*</sup>. Nonetheless, find out why people love/hate her. This is my appeal to everyone, believer or none, psychic or Truther, astrologer or mediums &#8211; to investigate all claims surrounding your views. The best defenders and communicators of atheism, scepticism, science, humanism and naturalism (like Michael Shermer, for instance), are always those who know the antagonist&#8217;s viewpoints as well as their own. Sometimes, the very reason why you are an atheist, for example, is <em>because</em> of how well you know your opponent&#8217;s minds and points. But never stop investigating.</p>
<p>We have entered and engaged in a dialogue, not a shouting match. The yelling from pulpits is dying, the choirs are becoming silenced and belief without evidence is not standing up to the scrutiny of avid investigators. The point is to end this shouting match and begin a conversation, based on the long abandoned fragile animal called &#8220;reason&#8221;. Let us begin that conversation now&#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="x-small;"><span style="small;">*I am aware this is namecalling, but it was done deliberately</span></span></p>
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		<title>The Skeptologists!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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My friend, Brian Dunning (from the excellent Skeptoid podcast), is in the process of creating a new TV show called The Skeptologists. They&#8217;ve just finished the pilot episode. Hopefully it gets picked up and we get more of this awesomeness!
From the Skeptologists site:
We&#8217;re not willing to just accept stories of the paranormal or supernatural.        We want proof. Each week, we&#8217;ll take on a handful of wild claims &#8212; from the        Bermuda Triangle to Bigfoot sightings to haunted houses &#8212; and apply accepted        scientific practices and experiments to see if these ideas really hold up.        Whether in the field or in the lab, [...]]]></description>
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<p>My friend, Brian Dunning (from the excellent <a href="http://skeptoid.com">Skeptoid </a>podcast), is in the process of creating a new TV show called <a title="The Skeptologists" href="http://www.skeptologists.com"><em>The Skeptologists</em></a>. They&#8217;ve just finished the pilot episode. Hopefully it gets picked up and we get more of this awesomeness!</p>
<p>From the Skeptologists site:</p>
<blockquote><p>We&#8217;re not willing to just accept stories of the paranormal or supernatural.        We want proof. Each week, we&#8217;ll take on a handful of wild claims &#8212; from the        Bermuda Triangle to Bigfoot sightings to haunted houses &#8212; and apply accepted        scientific practices and experiments to see if these ideas really hold up.        Whether in the field or in the lab, we&#8217;ll literally put these subjects to the test        in the hopes that one day we may find something that can&#8217;t be explained.  Each episode will        investigate one or more popular paranormal, supernatural, or other type of        phenomena, in favor of evidence-based science.</p></blockquote>
<p>The cast includes:</p>
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<li><span style="color: #ffe500;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yau-Man_Chan"><strong>Yau-Man Chan</strong></a></span>, 4th place contestant on Survivor: Fiji and Cheif Technology Officer for UC Berkeley&#8217;s College of Chemistry</li>
<li><span style="color: #ffe500;"><a href="http://www.themarkedward.com/"><strong>Mark Edward</strong></a></span>, a professional mentalist specializing in magic of the mind.</li>
<li><span style="color: #ffe500;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Novella"><strong>Dr. Steven Novella</strong></a></span>, a academic clinical neurologist at Yale University School of Medicine, president of the<a href="http://www.theness.com/home.asp"> New England Skeptical Society</a>, writer of the <a href="http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php">Neurologica blog</a>, and host of the <a href="http://www.theskepticsguide.org/">Skeptic&#8217;s Guide to the Universe</a> podcast.</li>
<li><span style="color: #ffe500;"><strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Plait">Dr. Phil Plait</a></strong></span>, the Bad Astronomer, writer of the <a href="http://www.badastronomy.com/">Bad Astronomy</a> blog,  and a renowned astronomer, author, lecturer, and blogger.</li>
<li><span style="color: #ffe500;"><strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Sanford">Dr. Kirsten Sanford</a></strong></span>, holds a PhD in physiology from UC Davis and is known more for her Sexy Geek nomination from a <a href="http://www.wired.com">Wired</a> magazine contest than for her intelligence.</li>
<li><span style="color: #ffe500;"><strong><a href="http://www.michaelshermer.com/">Dr. Michael Shermer</a></strong></span>, historian, author, monthly columnist for <em>Scientific American</em>, founding publisher of <em>Skeptic Magazine</em>, and Executive Director of the <a href="http://www.skeptic.com">Skeptics Society</a>.</li>
<li><span style="color: #ffe500;"><strong><a href="http://www.briandunning.com/">Brian Dunning</a></strong></span>, host and executive producer of <em>The Skeptologists</em> and producer of <a href="http://www.skeptoid.com"><em>S</em></a><em><a href="http://www.skeptoid.com">keptoid: Critical Analysis of Pop Phenomenon</a></em> podcast and book of the same title.</li>
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<p>They have a one minute sneak peak trailer out on Youtube. Here it is:</p>
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<p>You can <span style="color: #00cd00;"><strong>HELP</strong></span> the Skeptologist by sending an e-mail of support to <span style="color: #ffe500;"><a href="mailto:skeptologists@newrule.com">skeptologists@newrule.com</a></span>. Write-in in support of this        show idea and let them know why you would watch a show about critical thinking,        science and skepticism. The e-mails will be collected and used to help with the show getting picked up. (They won&#8217;t use your e-mail for anything other than this purpose by the way.)</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope we see this on the air soon!</p>
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