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	<title>Comments on: Rise, Reason, Rise</title>
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		<title>By: PaulJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome back, Tauriq.

You mention C. S. Lewis attempting to explain the Trinity. I heard another &quot;explanation&quot; in Bill Maher&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Religulous&lt;/i&gt;, in that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are three aspects of the same thing, much like ice, water and steam are three aspects of H20. Elegant, but nonetheless nonsense.

I find myself constantly at odds with believers of many stripes, and this is a puzzle. I&#039;m of average education and intellect, so how come my own beliefs about the nature of the universe are so contrary to the majority&#039;s? It&#039;s this puzzle that keeps me reading the writings of rational authors. But to read what theologians write, to hear what they say, is to be party to a mode of thinking so alien it defies comprehension. Do they really believe this stuff? I&#039;ll grant that many people give little thought to their beliefs - they just believe what they&#039;ve always believed, but theology is studied at learned institutions, with the result that we have theologians spouting palpable absurdities that no ordinary believer would even understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back, Tauriq.</p>
<p>You mention C. S. Lewis attempting to explain the Trinity. I heard another &#8220;explanation&#8221; in Bill Maher&#8217;s <i>Religulous</i>, in that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are three aspects of the same thing, much like ice, water and steam are three aspects of H20. Elegant, but nonetheless nonsense.</p>
<p>I find myself constantly at odds with believers of many stripes, and this is a puzzle. I&#8217;m of average education and intellect, so how come my own beliefs about the nature of the universe are so contrary to the majority&#8217;s? It&#8217;s this puzzle that keeps me reading the writings of rational authors. But to read what theologians write, to hear what they say, is to be party to a mode of thinking so alien it defies comprehension. Do they really believe this stuff? I&#8217;ll grant that many people give little thought to their beliefs &#8211; they just believe what they&#8217;ve always believed, but theology is studied at learned institutions, with the result that we have theologians spouting palpable absurdities that no ordinary believer would even understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Handley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Handley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Opinions must not be guards at the fences of our minds, but gate-keepers who allow brief passages to welcome visitors able to identify themselves.&quot; - Tauriq Moosa, 2009.  I&#039;m so citing this.  What a great quote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Opinions must not be guards at the fences of our minds, but gate-keepers who allow brief passages to welcome visitors able to identify themselves.&#8221; &#8211; Tauriq Moosa, 2009.  I&#8217;m so citing this.  What a great quote.</p>
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		<title>By: Tauriq Moosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tauriq Moosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lewis said, and I wrote it as such, that is &quot;when a cube is DRAWN&quot;; not a cube in the phenomenal sense. 

I do however sympathise with your view, as you are no doubt aware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lewis said, and I wrote it as such, that is &#8220;when a cube is DRAWN&#8221;; not a cube in the phenomenal sense. </p>
<p>I do however sympathise with your view, as you are no doubt aware.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Petrich</title>
		<link>http://factonista.org/2009/05/03/rise-reason-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-20862</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren Petrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a hard time feeling sorry for Christian theologians as they defend the Trinity. That&#039;s their mess and I don&#039;t want to have to clean up after them.

CS Lewis&#039;s defense is yet another version of the three-parts defense, and an erroneous defense, since a cube has six sides, not three. Or does he use some special accounting, like counting two opposite-side faces as one face?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hard time feeling sorry for Christian theologians as they defend the Trinity. That&#8217;s their mess and I don&#8217;t want to have to clean up after them.</p>
<p>CS Lewis&#8217;s defense is yet another version of the three-parts defense, and an erroneous defense, since a cube has six sides, not three. Or does he use some special accounting, like counting two opposite-side faces as one face?</p>
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