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I’ve saved writing about the recent vandalism at the University of Alberta on Edger until now for a few reasons. Mainly, I wanted all the heat to settle down, for our new banner to go up, and for as many facts and opinions to come in as possible. Also, it should note this post will mirror the original and follow up posts from my own blog.
So first, let’s try to go through the order of events as objectively as possible.

So what are my thoughts on the issue?
First, one of my Christian friends (who heads the local IVCF chapter), wanted to point out:
1. The hate crime (I don’t mind calling it one… it was) was performed as it seems as a response to previous events on campus in which I had only a few glimpses of knowledge.
2. To comment about the vandalism without commenting about the convocation debate seems in some sense to be making a sideways response to the one event.
I find it utterly appalling that he tries to justify this action as a retaliation for my writing an article in a campus paper. I wrote some words. They drew and permanently damaged property that wasn’t theirs. Big difference. I may have offended them, but they actively worked to remove the ability of my group to advertise itself – a right possessed by every group on my campus (including the Pro-Life group). Being offended isn’t a protection we afford people in Canada (generally).
But what else happened here? When I went out actively looking for support, I instead was told: “this is more of a love crime” from some atheists. People I expected to side with me and back me up in denouncing an act of targeted intolerance against my group instead chastised me for overreacting.
Let me emphasize, my friend, an evangelical Christian, and the Pentecostal group on campus agreed with my denunciation of the event, while atheists and the United Church chaplain (a very liberal church in Canada) thought I was being unreasonable for expecting some sympathy.
I can understand having small posters vandalized or ripped down – at 5-15c a piece, I would be surprised to see all of them after a week. But for someone to go out of their way to deface and damage a large hanging banner, required planning, time, and effort (I believe they actually removed it from the building it was hanging in, did their damage, and then re-hung it – mainly because it was attached to the wire it hung from differently).
So why the argument? I really don’t see why, as an atheist, I can’t say that an act of intolerance against my group is equivalent in terms of intolerance and hate to writing “God hates fags” on a gay-support group’s banner, or “terrorist” on a Muslim banner. Just because they put a heart on it doesn’t mean that’s what they’re feeling.
Even if I grant that they may actually feel that God does love us, that still doesn’t change the intent of the actions, which was to imply that our group shouldn’t be spreading its message, and should instead accept Jesus (or burn in hell, as the implied alternative).
So I just thought I’d put it out there: clearly a double standard exists within the atheist community that we can’t cry foul, even when it happens to us. And I think this is the greatest tragedy of this entire debacle.
So here’s where I’ll summarize my positions:
It’s a hate-crime to commit any crime based on intolerance. However, standing on a bench shouting that atheists should burn in hell, while in bad taste and rudely offensive, should not be a crime, but should not be encouraged.
Finally, to end on a positive note, here’s the video of my group coming together to repaint and hang a new banner:
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I thought about that incident a bit and I concluded that it could be someone wanting to tease the UAAA. Some people like to tease and torment and troll just for the fun of it.
Could be, but the removing the email/website seems more malicious (to me) than just mischievous vandalism.
It probably was malicious vandalism, but calling the incident a hate crime is counter-productive. Besides the fact that the term has lost any meaning these days (it has been applied to taking a Eucharist out of a mass, after all), its use only reflects aggrandized self-pity. A gang of Kristians beating up an atheist for no reason is a hate crime. Defacing your sign and removing contact information was despicable vandalism, but not a hate crime.
I agree with your stance on this. If someone had defaced a Christian / Jewish / Islamic group’s sign with “Oblivion is all that waits for us”, they would call it a hate crime. The sign was vandalized because it was for Atheists and Agnostics, not just randomly, or the contact info would still be there and the graffiti would be all obscenities and crudely drawn genitals.
P.S. I’m the new webmaster for a CFI affiliated club at York University, “FreeSAY” – Freethinkers, Skeptics and Atheists at York. Nice to see some internet neighbours. (The site is still in development)
I think the problem is that everyone and their mother has an opinion on what should be considered a hate crime. They look at this, and they see an ironic and abstract case study to which to apply their thoughts. Furthermore, there is no better time to question the definition of “hate crime” than when your own side is the victim–if the opposing side is the victim, you’ll just look bad.
Lost in the middle is the fact that some passive-aggressive Christians vandalized your sign.
It was certainly a bigoted crime, and we are left to decide if bigotry is equivalent to hatred. The point of “hate crime” is that a crime is committed because the victim is in some way despised or thought to be less than deserving of common lawful respect. By defacing the sign with slogans and symbols of opposing philosophy the crime is not random but distinct and pointedly anti-atheist. The intent was to silence as the bottom of the sign with contact information was removed. In my mind, there is no other way to view this event than as a direct attack based on opposing view, the very definition of “hate crime”. Whether or not “hate crime” is an overused phrase or a real phenomenon is not germane. IF hate crimes exist, and legally they do, this fits the definition as well as anything else.
[...] Double standard within the atheist community – Several weeks ago, I blogged about the vandalism of the University of Alberta Atheists and Agnostics’ flag. Sadly, many of my fellow atheists want to write this off as no big deal and just move on. I think that’s truly sad. Here’s a video of the making of the replacement flag: [...]
Well… this definitively is a hate crime, for it shows intolerance to other people’s thoughts (even if the word “love” is part of the message). Was it some kind of trolling? yeah! why not? but even then this kind of actions is and should never be justificated. If something similar happened to a scientologist group’s banner then it’d still be an act that should not be tolerated by saying “it was just a lovely kiddy joke, carry on”.
excellent work…
Speaking of hate crime(s):
George W. Bush is a hate-crime criminal.
George W. Bush did in fact commit innumerable hate crimes.
Bush will go down in history in infamy.
Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993
“GEORGE W. BUSH IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY” BLOG OF ANDREW YU-JEN WANG