Comments on: Kids in Quebec to be “confused” by religious choices http://factonista.org/2008/08/27/kids-in-quebec-to-be-confused-by-religious-choices/ Science. Humanism. Atheism. Politics. Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:46:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.1 hourly 1 By: thoughtcounts Z http://factonista.org/2008/08/27/kids-in-quebec-to-be-confused-by-religious-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-476 thoughtcounts Z Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:40:24 +0000 http://theedger.org/?p=826#comment-476 I'm not sure I like the idea of an ethics education course taught in school in the first place, unless it's extremely based in open-ended discussion. You're bound to leave something out, have the teacher's personal opinions creep in too much, etc. etc. If you're going to have it, though -- it's very telling for Catholic parents to be trying to shield their children from learning about alternatives. If you have a superior belief system, it should be easy to see, or at least to understand an explanation of, why why it's superior to others. The fact that they're worried about alternatives to their beliefs even being mentioned (not advocated) shows how little faith they really have in it. I’m not sure I like the idea of an ethics education course taught in school in the first place, unless it’s extremely based in open-ended discussion. You’re bound to leave something out, have the teacher’s personal opinions creep in too much, etc. etc.

If you’re going to have it, though — it’s very telling for Catholic parents to be trying to shield their children from learning about alternatives. If you have a superior belief system, it should be easy to see, or at least to understand an explanation of, why why it’s superior to others. The fact that they’re worried about alternatives to their beliefs even being mentioned (not advocated) shows how little faith they really have in it.

]]> By: Chedstone http://factonista.org/2008/08/27/kids-in-quebec-to-be-confused-by-religious-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-474 Chedstone Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:57:26 +0000 http://theedger.org/?p=826#comment-474 yay! let's hide the truth from our children. what a great way to advance as a society. yay! yay! let’s hide the truth from our children. what a great way to advance as a society. yay!

]]> By: Kids in Quebec to be “confused” by religious choices « Skepfeeds-The Best Skeptic blogs of the day http://factonista.org/2008/08/27/kids-in-quebec-to-be-confused-by-religious-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-410 Kids in Quebec to be “confused” by religious choices « Skepfeeds-The Best Skeptic blogs of the day Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:55:51 +0000 http://theedger.org/?p=826#comment-410 [...] READ THE REST OF THIS ENTRY AT “EDGER” [...] [...] READ THE REST OF THIS ENTRY AT “EDGER” [...]

]]> By: Matthew http://factonista.org/2008/08/27/kids-in-quebec-to-be-confused-by-religious-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-409 Matthew Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:35:12 +0000 http://theedger.org/?p=826#comment-409 I for one agree with the parents: there's no need to bog them down with so many options -- Catholicism is plenty confusing all by itself! :) I for one agree with the parents: there’s no need to bog them down with so many options — Catholicism is plenty confusing all by itself! :)

]]> By: rezur http://factonista.org/2008/08/27/kids-in-quebec-to-be-confused-by-religious-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-402 rezur Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:36:45 +0000 http://theedger.org/?p=826#comment-402 actually according to their website, their elementary programming does include "des enseignment morale" or simply morals in English, along with Catholic and Protestant morals. Their high school courses offer the same thing. actually according to their website, their elementary programming does include “des enseignment morale” or simply morals in English, along with Catholic and Protestant morals. Their high school courses offer the same thing.

]]> By: Ron Brown http://factonista.org/2008/08/27/kids-in-quebec-to-be-confused-by-religious-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-400 Ron Brown Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:15:34 +0000 http://theedger.org/?p=826#comment-400 They will become confused with too many choices.... Right. Cause we all know that there should be only ONE choice. Insert parents' religion here. They will become confused with too many choices…. Right. Cause we all know that there should be only ONE choice. Insert parents’ religion here.

]]> By: A.H. http://factonista.org/2008/08/27/kids-in-quebec-to-be-confused-by-religious-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-397 A.H. Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:34:07 +0000 http://theedger.org/?p=826#comment-397 Yes! OMG! I also did attend school in Montreal when it was called the CECM, and there was nothing at all religious about my schools. I've actually been to 4 different schools while i lived in Montreal, and none expelled any religious sentiment. From my understanding, it was simply called CECM because that what it was originally called and not because it was Catholic. But when i was younger i always thought it was weird. It's Much like the YMCA. Yes! OMG! I also did attend school in Montreal when it was called the CECM, and there was nothing at all religious about my schools. I’ve actually been to 4 different schools while i lived in Montreal, and none expelled any religious sentiment. From my understanding, it was simply called CECM because that what it was originally called and not because it was Catholic. But when i was younger i always thought it was weird. It’s Much like the YMCA.

]]> By: CH http://factonista.org/2008/08/27/kids-in-quebec-to-be-confused-by-religious-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-393 CH Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:28:46 +0000 http://theedger.org/?p=826#comment-393 I was a student in Quebec back in the 90's. At the time I attended elementary school part of the Commission des Ecoles Catholiques de Montreal (CECM) before it became a CSDM (Commision Scholaire de Montreal). I think it was the major school commission in Montreal. I don't particularly remember it being catholic at all, but as a matter of fact there was a religion course but that was for Catholics, and since I wasn't a Catholic I was able to go to Classe de Morale, where they taught morals and ethics in secular way. I was a student in Quebec back in the 90’s. At the time I attended elementary school part of the Commission des Ecoles Catholiques de Montreal (CECM) before it became a CSDM (Commision Scholaire de Montreal). I think it was the major school commission in Montreal. I don’t particularly remember it being catholic at all, but as a matter of fact there was a religion course but that was for Catholics, and since I wasn’t a Catholic I was able to go to Classe de Morale, where they taught morals and ethics in secular way.

]]> By: Tyler Handley http://factonista.org/2008/08/27/kids-in-quebec-to-be-confused-by-religious-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-388 Tyler Handley Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:03:28 +0000 http://theedger.org/?p=826#comment-388 They're requiring children to take a religious ethics course and a religious ethics course only...no secular ethics course. This will only further inculcate the flimsy argument that ethics are derived from religion. Ugh. They’re requiring children to take a religious ethics course and a religious ethics course only…no secular ethics course. This will only further inculcate the flimsy argument that ethics are derived from religion. Ugh.

]]> By: Ramon Garcia http://factonista.org/2008/08/27/kids-in-quebec-to-be-confused-by-religious-choices/comment-page-1/#comment-387 Ramon Garcia Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:58:54 +0000 http://theedger.org/?p=826#comment-387 The only ways to make it fair for all is to either teach all religion or none at all. The only ways to make it fair for all is to either teach all religion or none at all.

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